Show Notes:
Books, places, and resources mentioned in the conversation:

• Sermons by Fr. Brent on YouTube
• Genesis Farm
• Sacrament of the Present Moment by Jean-Pierre de Caussade
• Insight Meditation Society
• Sacred Ground anti-racism curriculum
• Powers and Submissions by Sarah Coakley
• Half a Yellow Sun by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
• Roshi Joan Halifax interview On Being
• Marcus Borg Meeting Jesus Again for the First Time
• "Two Bubbas and a Bible" Lectionary Lab Podcast
  
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Show Notes
Where to Find Debra:

• Her blog: Intersections
• Her Christian Century Column: Faith Matters
• On Twitter: @DebraDeanMurph1

Debra's Book:

• Happiness, Health, and Beauty: The Christian Life in Everyday Terms
  

From the Conversation:

• Valle Crucis Conference Center
• Ezra Klein interview with Dave Eggers
• "What if We Stopped Pretending" by Jonathan Franzen
  
• Debra's essay "Reading the Creation Story in a Dying World"
  
• Dorothy Day The Reckless Way of Love
  
• Film on Dorothy Day: "Revolution of the Hearth: The Dorothy Day Story"
  
• Every Moment Holy
  
• Quotidian Mysteries by Kathleen Norris
  
• Koru mindfulness app
  
• Biography of Silence by Pablo D'Ors
  

Where to find Amy:

• Her website: amypeterson.net
• Instagram: @amypete
• Twitter: @amylpeterson

Amy's Books:

• Where Goodness Still Grows: Reclaiming Virtue in an Age of Hypocrisy
• Dangerous Territory: My Misguided Quest to Save the World
  

Books and Authors Mentioned:

• Rebecca Solnit Hope in the Dark
  
• Annie Dillard Holy the Firm
  
• L.M. Montgomery's Ann of Green Gables books
  
• Walter Wink's books on "The Powers"
  
• Lauren Winner
  
• Kathleen Norris
  
• David James Duncan
  
• Mary Szybist Incarnadine: Poems
  
• Melissa Range Horse and Rider: Poems
  
• D.L. Mayfield
  
• Kelly Nikondeha
  
• Christiana Peterson
  
• Jessica Goudeau
  
• Stina Kielsmeier-Cook
  
• Madeleine
  

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To learn more about the references and books that Claudio and I discussed in our conversation see the links below. 

• Article in Plough Magazine by Sam Ewell about Illich and the lessons he learned from Casa da Videira
• Ivan Illich and David Cayley The Rivers North of the Future
• Video of Claudio talking about the Casa da Videira community with images from their daily life.
  

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